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Coogler: I’m not going to call you that. I’m saying, you gotta see it from their perspective. Nobody’s screening “Bridge on the River Kwai” in Oakland right now.Cuaron: Yeah, but why on the iPhone?Coogler: That’s how they watch stuff. That’s their world. I got a brother who’s six years younger than me and he does stuff, like just six years’ (difference) and he does stuff I just would never understand.Lee: It’s like Auto-Tune. I know, I know, but what happened to people singing? Aretha Franklin. James Brown.Coogler: It’s just an instrument, a new instrument.


Cuaron: I don’t like it, but remember that people also said sound is killing cinema. Let’s see what these new masters create with (the iPhones).Rourke: You can’t predict what it’s going to do when you give, particularly young people, a new piece of technology. What was interesting for me going from theater to cinema, like, can I feel the audience? In theater you can really feel it. And for me that act of assembly, particularly when your work has a mission and a political life behind it and a drive, to sit among a group of people and watch that thing is tremendously important.


Kusama: This idea of a sustained experience that we agree to participate in together. Yes, you can sit in theaters where people are on their phone or they’re talking, but you’re there together for two hours and you’re not getting up and walking away and reheating dinner. You’re there together, sharing the time together.Cuaron: But there’s another element of this (streaming idea). The actress of “Roma,” Yalitza (Aparicio), she’s so happy the film is going on Netflix. And when you ask her why, she says, “Because I want my communities to see the film. And otherwise we’ll have to travel more than three hours to go to a theater, and we don’t have the resources for that.” You know, it’s how much you want to democratize the spread of your films.



LA Times: Ryan, in your movie, “Creed,” there’s a moment where people are watching a James Bond movie and then in “Black Panther,” you’ve essentially sneaked a James Bond movie into the middle of the story with this cool casino fight and car chase. Do movies that you watch and love inform your filmmaking?Coogler: I wanted to be a filmmaker because I love the way watching movies made me feel. So like this gentleman here (motions to Lee), legend has it in 1992 he said, “When ‘Malcolm X’ comes out, every black father should take his kid to see this movie.” Something along those lines?


Coogler: My dad listened to this and took me to see “Malcolm X.” I was very, very young; I sat on his lap because the theater was packed. And I became very emotional while I was watching it. When Denzel (Washington) points his hand and all of the other people turn, I’d never seen a black man photographed like that. I’d never seen a black man that powerful on a hundred-foot screen. And when he got killed, both me and my dad, along with a lot of other people in the theater, cried. So now when I think about “Malcolm X” and I watch it, I think about my dad. That medium is so powerful, that’s the reason that I wanted to do it.And the only way that I get the motivation or the confidence that maybe I can make a film work is by looking at other films that made a similar story work. So I do my homework when I get into making a certain type of film. When I sat down with Kevin Feige at Marvel Studios and they were talking to me about “Panther” and they said, “You know, we figure this could be our version of James Bond.” And I got really excited about that, like an African king who was also like a James Bond.


LA Times: Spike, what does that mean to you when you hear someone like Ryan or maybe some of your students at NYU talk about your influence on them?Lee: I’m honored to hear that. And for me it’s a cycle. We just gotta keep going. I was very lucky to work with the great Ossie Davis and knew Gordon Parks and so those were people who I saw their films. Just keep it going. (To Coogler) Besides you, I was the second most happiest … about the success of your film. I mean, it’s a game-changer and it’s not about race or anything. This is just a (huge impact) in the industry no matter who you are.



Kusama: But also I think this idea of legacy and diversity that you bring up, like when I think about you, Spike, I think about “She’s Gotta Have it” and I think about seeing a movie in college in which I was able to see a woman with agency kind of wreak havoc in so many other people’s lives. And I was like, “Oh, God, I really like her.” I don’t know if this is the forum for how conscious you were of that being a somewhat radical choice to have Nola Darling exist.Lee: It wasn’t all like that. It was half the black women saying it was misogynistic. So I was getting it from both sides on that.Kusama: Complicated work often has to endure complicated conversations. But then cut to watching “Black Panther” in the theater with my son who is 11, and have him want to collect the action figures of all the female characters because he thought they were the coolest.


Kusama: (“Black Panther”) is not just about stepping into the one single hero role but into something more expansive. It’s what “Roma” is asking us to do, step into a character we never really get access to. We don’t get to see life from that perspective. That’s what movies can do.LA Times: Yorgos, all of your movies have been about power dynamics, and in the “Favourite,” it’s very specifically about power dynamics among these three women. Did that feel distinct for you?Lanthimos: We started this film like nine years ago, so back then I didn’t feel like I was doing something along the lines of the times. I just had read about this story about these three women and I went like, “Oh, interesting, you can make a film with three female leads and you can create these complex characters.” Just normal stuff that you were supposed to be seeing in cinema but for whatever reason, it wasn’t there. I’m glad that that’s now happening and this film feels more relevant now, but at the same time, I tried to not make any comment about the fact that there’s homosexual relationships or anything like that. I just wanted to approach it as they have this power and how their behavior and their decisions affect millions of other people. That’s what was more interesting.


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